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Home sweet home.

I'm flying from DC back to Salt Lake tomorrow, several days early, because Magic, my dog, is very very ill. He's been tentatively diagnosed with advanced stomach cancer, and at 11 any treatments are likely to be fatal, or put him through an extreme degree of misery so that he can live for a couple more months. I think it's only right to give him a few extra months, but he's stopped eating (no mean feat for a Labrador) and drinking and he's unable to get up without assistance due to lack of strength and arthritis. He's been put on an IV and pain killers, but his prognosis is grim, so I'm going home to say good-bye if necessary. Obviously, this is devastating. 

Alex is staying in DC and will be making regular posts. 

"I've eaten meat my entire life."

"I have always eaten meat," therefore, I will never go vegan. A response to this excuse could take this form: 

By definition, every single person, without exception, who goes vegan ate meat their entire lives. That point at which they went vegan was the moment when they stopped eating meat. I, myself, ate meat my entire life until I went vegan.

I'm not asking you to abstract outside of yourself and "become vegan," as though if you're not born vegan then you cannot ever be vegan. Everyone who is now vegan was once just like you - there is nothing metaphysical about this.      

It seems to me, then, that those people who would employ this excuse are in fact saying the following: "Regardless of the validity of your argument; even though I do agree that our treatment of animals is utterly atrocious because they do in fact suffer and feel; although we as a species do owe direct moral duties to nonhumans, I refuse to alter my simple habits." 

Of course I am assuming the validity of the philosophy of animal rights, and also that these people agree that our enslavement of animals is a moral dilemma. However, such an assumption is sound given the lack-of-argument being proffered to counter my position in this instance.   
 
What you're saying with this excuse is that I am substantively weak as a person. Period. A weakness also found in the slave owner who accepted the argument that owning a human being was immoral, although for economic reasons, decided that it's better to keep the plantation populated.    

We'll call this an experiment.

One of the main problems I see in the animal rights movement is that, not unlike the women's movement, we're a fractured groups made of a lot of different people with some very different opinions. We do share one thing, and many of us share one desire, but we have very different ideas about how to go about this. We're a little confused about how best to do this, and how best to go about helping advance our goals. 

Case in point: Vegan Freaks is a blog with a community forum, catering to us vegans who also happen to be freaks. I came across the community and blog ages ago, but was rather put off by the level of hostility. There are some things I really do like about the VF community. As I've said, I liked parts of it so much I wanted this blog to take on some of the tone. I also like that they provide a place for vegans to go and just be vegans. Much like I love going to Sticky Fingers and being able to order anything off the menu, I like the idea of going onto a blog and not being attacked or having my views mocked. I like the idea of helping people with their transition to veganism. I like the idea of taking out my frustrations on people who will understand. 

In short, I like this idea very much. 

The problem is that VF can be tricky to get into. That's right, there's an application process. And a lot of people fail it. I understand they why behind it, but for some reason no one seems to see how many intelligent, dedicated people are being turned away or turned off by the 'secret club mentality'. I'm not talking about unwanted omnivores or hunters, but vegans and people who are trying to go vegan. 

EDIT: I've been informed by another source that it's actually not that hard to get in to the VF forums. They just (understandably) want to keep their privacy intact. Like I said before, makes sense. And I've totally been there. 

If we vegans can't pull together and support each other, if we reject each other because of petty issues, if we're too busy sniping at each other, how on earth are we going help anyone?

The other problem is that while communities like this may provide some much needed rant room, they also provide a breeding ground for the very things vegans are constantly accused of being. Namely:

"self-righteous, holier-than-thou, and elitist". 

As a friend once said to me about her vegan roommate and friends, "all they do is sit around telling each other things they already know, saying the same things over and over and over." The short and long of it is that we shouldn't be representing ourselves as some special club that only the best, the most vegan-vegans, can get into. We need our private places, but we should be open to helping people, not scaring them away. 

These are great!

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." - Albert Einstein

 "The time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men." - Leonardo da Vinci

 "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." - Gandhi

"I eat everything that nature voluntarily gives: fruits, vegetables, and the products of plants. But I ask you to spare me what animals are forced to surrender: meat, milk, and cheese." - Author Unknown

Thanks Bea!

We are, after all, helping them.

Recently, hundreds of thousands of people have lost their lives or have been subject to unimaginable suffering due to an earthquake and typhoon - natural disasters that occur and re-occur continuously. At any given moment, many thousands of people will die from starvation, lack of nutrition, genocide, war, and disease throughout Africa, Asia, and South America. Many of our fellow citizens went hungry last night, will go hungry tonight, and will go hungry tomorrow night; they will sleep on park benches or in filth, "burden" our healthcare system, fall further into psychological despair, and die slowly, miserably. This is existence - it characterizes the lives of many millions of human beings.

[The year] 2000 began with 24 million Africans infected with AIDS. In the absence of a medical miracle, nearly all will die before 2010. Each day, 6,000 Africans die from AIDS. Each day, an additional 11,000 are infected.

Would it be acceptable to remove many, or any, of these individuals from their environment, house and feed them, provide them with antibiotics, some health care, and protect them against external threats? This would have to be done in an economically efficient way, therefore, these individuals would have to be used instrumentally - perhaps some would be used for their labor, others for their bodies (e.g., toxicity testing). However, their lives would undeniably be more satisfying than their natural condition: slow death from AIDS, and hunger, war, etc.  

Imagine, we could remove those 11,000 soon-to-be infected Africans from their homes thereby preventing their infection, provide them with a safe, albeit unnatural, home and life. Yes, these 11,000 individuals would have to be exploited, often at the expense of their health and lives; however, their other option is one of abject misery. Maybe a child grows to the age of 18 in good health until she becomes an unconsenting organ donor. But that's better than contracting the virus from her mother at birth, and dieing at the age of 5 from malnutrition, the absence of medical care, and everything else that accompanies AIDS in Africa.

Would you agree to support this situation? If not, why is this argument employed to justify our exploitation of nonhumans? Why is it argued that "they would most likely suffer and die in the wild anyways," when attempting to justify enslaving a pack of wolves in a zoo or hunting deer, when this argument wouldn't ever be thought to justify removing the starving infant population from a southeastern Asian country and providing each child with food (while exploiting them to our advantage)?

If we are to assume that we truly benefit nonhumans by removing them from "nature" thereby justifying our exploitation of them, why ought we not do the same to mitigate the plight of humans who similarly suffer and die because of "nature." If this assumption is valid, which would suggest that it is likely moral or "right," then it's reasonable to believe that we have an obligation to do the same for humans - afer all, it's the moral thing to do. So much so that this assumption is often used to justify the exploitation of over 9 billion nonhumans annually in the U.S. alone.

Will be crossposted @ Vegan Soapbox

Hint: Nothing is not the correct answer.

I've received some criticism from horse people about my stance on horse racing and other horse sports. So I have a question to ask all the people who thought what I had to say was wrong. 

Why is it okay for horses to die in these sports? 

If it's not okay, what can we do about it that will stop the deaths? 

Think about it long and hard. By saying that these sports should continue you are agreeing (tacitly, but agreeing none the less) that the deaths that occur - both horse and human - are okay. Is that what you want to say?  Let me know.

The end of my much needed vacation.

Alex and I spent the past week having an extremely needed vacation in Williamsburg, VA with his mom and her friend Michelle. Some highlights:

The billboard on the side of the road that advertised Fireworks, Ham, Sausage and Cigarettes. 

The free samples of chewing tobacco in the gas station. 

When my v-neck shirt was blown off my shoulders on a roller coaster in Busch Gardens, causing me to more-or-less flash the whole park. The whole incident was caught on the ride camera and put on display for all the teenage boys running around with their choir groups. 

Alex lost his phone. Which almost killed him. 

A lot of people have asked what we do diet-wise when we're on vacation, so I thought I'd mention a couple things. Since we were staying at a time-share with a kitchen, we went grocery shopping and stocked up on a couple key items for breakfast and lunch. Soy milk, some margarine, a couple yogurts, bread, lots of fruit and some veggies and we were able to cook in for almost every breakfast and lunch for both us and for the 'parents'. 

All our other meals were eaten out, and following our usual vacation pattern, we just went wherever they wanted to go and found or made a vegan meal. We do this mainly because Alex's mom is usually buying and we like to be polite, but also because it's an effective way of proving that yes, we can actually go out and have a good time - we don't even have to stick to salad. We do have to ask a couple extra questions and sometimes ask for some special details on our meals, but it's not hard. 

In other news, new posts will be coming more regularly since school ended last week. You can also find our writings at Vegan Soapbox

Shouldn't we simply avoid cruelty?

Why are anti-cruelty laws theoretically impotent? 

As Tom Regan argues, the term cruelty appeals to a certain state of mind: X's vivisection of Y is prohibited if the impetus for X's action was a desire to see Y in a state of persistent pain. If an act is prohibited by an anti-cruelty law, a certain "bad" intention must have motivated the prohibited action. It follows that a society's designation that using my family dog as a dart-board is an unlawful act, for example, is not derived from a duty owed directly to the dog, but the result of an outpouring of benevolence: "We as society shall take pity on you Jake-the-dog; our kindness has compelled us to choose not to throw sharp metallic objects into your body."

This is clearly flawed as those who consciously exploit animals are in fact often not cruel. Those who consume animals or wear leather are not cruel. They are products, effects, of our culture. Granted, many hunters, scientists, etc. are callous people, however, many of them are not. Again, they are the results of societal processes that condition all of us to believe that animals are our resources. They are wrong, their actions are immoral, but they are not cruel. 

Within the animal rights movement the concept of "rights" is employed because, as with members of our own species, certain actions are prohibited as a matter of justice. 

As the dominant group men haven't chosen not to rape women out of kindness or because it's cruel to forcefully take sex from women, but because women ought to be respected as possessors of a kind of value that demands that their interests be protected. 

We ought to extend the principle of "equal protection of interests" to all persons capable of caring that you are respecting their interests because that is what justice demands of us. Kindness is not the impetus, benevolence doesn't compel the movement; the logic of our own moral intuitions and basic assumptions about the wrongness of both unnecessary suffering and failing to respect the "inherent value," in Regan's conception of "rights," of all those who posses it ought to move our hearts and minds
 
Of course we should be kind in our dealings with other sensitive beings. However, as a question of ethics, kindness, however this is conceived, is but a sufficient manifestation of acknowledging that suffering is intrinsically evil, an acknowledgment that necessarily informs the defining of ethical constraints on action.     
 
The practical impotence of anti-cruelty laws has been expounded forcefully by Francione (see the property status of nonhumans), and are not in need of repeating here.        

It's like giving away gold.

Vegan Soapbox is giving away a vegan cookbook, just for commenting. How could life get any better? Only if they were giving away a new wardrobe too.